E-Log for Operations Meeting – 12-2-2003  10:00/MCC

 

SWE (Clark, Hall, De Contreras) met with Operations (Erickson, Stanek, Schuh, Hultquist, Van Hoover, Hoobler, Allen, Colocho) to discuss where we are and how we will proceed with the MCC Operations E-Log implementation.  We went through the agenda that Ron Chestnut made last week and then discussed other items:

 

1)  Mike Stanek has not yet talked in detail with CBAF, but will.  He indicated that some Operators and EOIC’s have looked at or used the Test E-Log facility to become familiar with how the E-Log behaves.

 

2)    William Colocho reported that he is working with Terri Lahey on being able to host a browser on an NCD, but that there are memory size issues and perhaps X-term issues that need resolution.  Browsers are always difficult to use because the “features” of available browsers are not always compatible. 

 

   We talked about tcl/tk as a potentially less painful alternative, but no decision was reached.  Theo has indicated that the current Jefferson Lab code is not structured well for migration to SLAC, but it could be done.

 

3)  Operations had requested a filter to remove extra lines in the XML.  Bob Hall has implemented a solution for this problem.  Similarly, he is implementing an individual authorized writer access list for each of the separate logs.

 

4)    We discussed the Access based Shift Summary in the context of a separate tool producing a file that would be converted and loaded into the log when complete and final.  Mike indicated that their understanding was that there would be a machine auto-entry made at the end of the shift that would be a header without text, and that the real report would be entered later.  The late entry would go in with a time stamp tied to its entry time and place plus an addition reference on the earlier auto-entry line from shift end.  Neither entry would be editable after entry. 

 

   Cheryl wanted to know if a tool other than Access was ok.  Ops can select any standard tool they wish; any choice will require a translator to get to the log XML protocol.  The current Access tool was convenient since it is already in use and there is an Access to XML translator in the EPICS Collaboration library.  Ops should make a selection on this tool sometime soon, and we will look at the translator effort.

 

5)    Entry editing came next.  Peter & Zoe suggested several ways to allow editing by manipulating how entries are made “visible” in the E-Log.  While the database entry and time stamp reflect entry time, the log text could be manipulated to reflect only the later edited entries, with the earlier entries being “hidden”.  For example, they would like to be able to copy the original entry into a buffer and make modifications, additions, and deletions to that entry and then enter the amended text into the log with the later time stamp.  Then the original entry would be “hidden”, so that the later entry substituted for the original entry.  All such changes could only be accomplished by the original entry writer.

 

      From a technical point of view, this kind of change requires substantial custom code to manage the rules for manipulating, handling, and hiding log entries.  The real penalty, however, is that this custom code has to be added to each new Collaboration release down the road – a substantial maintenance effort/expense.  Changes to date requested by Ops have been implemented in the base system, however, changes to “edit” rules have been rejected by Jefferson Lab as contrary to DOE requirements.

 

6)    Cheryl asked when we were going to switch over to this Log as a production tool.  Roger indicated that it is not about a transition date but when we are ready and have the right E-Log features and procedures.

   

 

We set the next meeting for next Tuesday at 11:00 in MCC.  Note the different time.