Present: Peter Bosted, Keith Griffioen, Bill Olson, Steve Rock Don Crabb Beam: Funding in place now. Designer time scare, but pace starting to pick up. Tentatively decided on double collimator in front of dump giving a 2-inch hole (makes wire array construction easier). Progress being made on SEM, annealing port, and motors for goniometer. Pin-cushion detectors for C37 will come next. Peter looked at vacuum chamber layout in dump magnets: slight tilt can prevent beam from hitting belows, and allow continuous coverage for spent electron detectors. Looks like something like 15 20-cm-long ionization chambers in 1st and 2nd magnts will allow us to see coherant peak positions and relative height. Ray looking into which wire to use. E160: Keith was been working on looking at psiprime using their decays to jpsi. Pt doesn't increase significantly, but z is lower. Peter finds background rates very low in new design: may allow more beam flux and better statistics. If decide not use LASS for E161, could use two 18D72 side by side to get 2 m of magnetized iron. E161: Peter found decay rates at least factor of two higher than in proposal, and open charm rates is on high side of estimates. Makes single muon technique problematic. Has been investigating using two muons to tag open charm. Using inelastic jpsi seems relatively easy experimentally: need to re-investigate how good interpreation might be, compared to open charm to muons (which means only loose connection to ccbar kinematics). Keith, Don, Peter will try to talk to theorists. Don will try to find good inelastic model to use in simulations. Steve will work with Herwig after Christmas to check against Pythia, for open charm simulations. Hodoscopes: Big Byte at Jlab thinks they have rights to the neutron bars: Don will try to sort this out. Collaboration Meeting: Don will send out hotel details. Everyone on phone conferance planning to attend. May try to get some theorists to talk about charm production.